UPDATED: Croom On the Radio

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UPDATED: OK, here are more excerpts from Sylvester Croom‘s interview today on Atlanta radio station 790 “The Zone.” Just, wow, is all I can say. He hasn’t returned my call yet.

Q: On coaches like you and Tommy Tuberville leaving despite success.
Croom: “Coaches are being paid a lot of money, and athletic directors are listening a lot to the media, particularly the Internet crowd. There’s just more pressure building. Winning games is the bottom line. What happens, the reasons for not winning, the things that can happen to a team during the course of a season, the things that can happen in a program. A lot of those things are going under the radar, are not as important as they used to be.”

Q: How tough to recruit, especially with the restrictions you had?
Croom: “I guess we’re probably, of the cities in the conference, we’re definitely the smallest. We took the approach that there was going to be a special type kid that we were going to have to recruit here. And our whole philosophy in coming here was building on our in-state players, having pride and staying in Mississippi, and our goal was to improve our facilities so they would have a reason to stay at home. And we did that. …”
“The probation really hurt us for the first three years, and that’s why when I took the job, Larry Templeton and the president at that time (Dr. Charles Lee), we discussed a philosophy. We were going to clean things up during the first three years and then start to build the program after that. Since those two gentlemen are no longer in the program, it seems that everybody’s talking about five years. Well, this was a five- to seven-year project. I know the fans, they don’t want to hear that, particularly with the way Ole Miss is playing this year, and Alabama’s turnaround, but probation is a serious problem. That’s why they punish you when you break the rules. It’s not easy to overcome.”

Q: Were they asking big-time changes of you (that) you weren’t prepared to make, and that’s why you left the program?
Croom: “Well, you know, we had made an agreement. I was going to change our offensive coordinators. Woody McCorvey was going to move into an administrative role, he had already signed a new contract. That had already been done. We started talking about this after the Kentucky game, and my only concern was making sure that – because a lot of things had happened to us this season, I didn’t think they were Woody’s fault – so when we were going to make the change, I felt like I had to make a change in the offense in order to move forward. …

“Salary had been worked out, and guarantees were made. To be honest with you, I’d already contacted Al Borges about being our offensive coordinator. I thought that, supposedly, the week after that, he was going to let me know for sure. But exactly what the reason was, I was never told.”

Q: On what’s next.
Croom: “I would like to coach in college again, because there’s a great deal of satisfaction of coaching young people. Every day, you know you’re going to work, you know that what you’re doing matters. If I’m going to spend 18-20 hours a day working, I want to make sure it’s counting for something.”

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116 Responses to “UPDATED: Croom On the Radio”

  1. shmuley Says:

    I’m sure glad Croom is out there drumming up potential criticism for our program right in the middle of our coaching search. I was afraid he’d blow his pie hole.

  2. darkcooger Says:

    If he was forced out, why didn’t he come out sooner and say so? He told us that it was his decision. I understand that the press release had to go through University PR folks so he may not have been able to speak his mind there, but he’s had plenty of time before now to do so. Why now?

    If what he said in that interview is true, then there is a significant question: why would he be forced out then? An offensive coordinator change was enough to satisfy most people, and many had said for much of the season that moving Woody into an administrative position would be perfectly acceptable.

    I still have a lot of respect for Coach Croom, but this sort of stuff raises way more questions than it answers. And why wouldn’t he talk to local media? I still believe he’s a good man, but I’m more curious about what’s going on now than I’ve ever been.

  3. farley662 Says:

    So much for that man of character garbage.

  4. dawgface52 Says:

    It shouldn’t take 5 years or longer to get your offense below a 100 national ranking. I don’t care what kind of shape the program was in when he arrived. The drubbing OM gave MSU just shows what kind of progress he made. None.

  5. darkcooger Says:

    Wow, comparing his ouster to Tommy Tuberville? Seriously?

    The difference is that Tubby was successful and seemed to have been fired after a single bad season whereas Croom only had one good season out of five, and that one seems more like a lucky turn than anything else (just like State could easily have been 6-6 this season with the same luck).

    Also, we’d have been willing to give him the time he thought he needed if we’d seen any progress at all, but no… nothing. And don’t bring up the probation – it’s been done to death. Several people have shown that other programs have been more heavily punished for longer durations and had significantly greater success during their probation.

    I don’t know. I want to hear from Greg Byrne now. What went down that Saturday morning? I get the feeling that all we’re going to hear from Croom is that “the powers that be” wanted him out and no elaboration. Someone needs to spill the beans.

  6. skydawg706 Says:

    Looks like to me MSU recruited a lot out of State…..recall something being said need to recruit out of state players.

    I do not know – if what he said is true – why did he resign ( or forced out).

    Maybe State did not like his choice for OC – Al Borges ( 53 ) – where is he know?

    Maybe AD will elaborate on everything when dust clears — feel he would let it go – move on – what’s the purpose of getting in word battle….

    Time to move on know – just hope we come out better.

  7. skydawg706 Says:

    dawgface – darkcooger, agree five years long enuff to turn program around – this year should have been improvement on last year – realize we lost some key players last year – but recurit to fill in the gaps. MSU needs depth.

    Lose 20 seniors this year – not all players – but loosing some good ones #10, #3 (made great running back or WR, ot both)

  8. olemsufan Says:

    his talking should nullify his contract.

  9. diamondawg23 Says:

    Yada, Yada, Yada, Blah, Blah, Blah Its not my fault…. We didn’t execute… Yada, Yada, Yada… Greg Byrn lit a fire under my a$$ Blah, Blah, Blah…

  10. db33 Says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but the man said we had turned the corner and were ready to be a contender.

    Yeah. Right.

    Croom is FOS. And, we all better be damn glad we didn’t make those 2 field goals, 1 against Auburn, 1 against Kentucky. We’d be sitting here at 6-6 headed to the Indy Bowl and Woody & Croom would probably be getting another raise!

    I really think Croom is too stubborn to be a HC in college. He’d probably do better in the pros. And, where he really belongs, is probably back in a NFL position coach job.

    GOOD RIDDANCE.

  11. farley662 Says:

    I believe what he is saying is the white man won’t give a brotha a break. Crackas!

  12. Braves Dawg Says:

    Character? Yes he is a character.

  13. mcpeter1 Says:

    You guys really have no clue about college football….. All of you think that its just a walk in the park to coach and recruit in the SEC.. It’s kind of hard to recruit when you have Nutt, Saban, and Miles at your back door all the time. Why don’t you think before you speak? We had the best recruiting class in MSU history coming in this year and now they are fleeing left and right from MSU… Yeah, MSU needs change and it was best that Croom left.. But you all need to quite dogging Croom because at least he left the program in one piece…

  14. mcpeter1 Says:

    You guys really have no clue about college football….. All of you think that its just a walk in the park to coach and recruit in the SEC.. It’s kind of hard to recruit when you have Nutt, Saban, and Miles at your back door all the time. Why don’t you think before you speak? We had the best recruiting class in MSU history coming in this year and now they are fleeing left and right from MSU… Yeah, MSU needs change and it was best that Croom left..

  15. farley662 Says:

    He is dogging us genius. The man was never and will never be head coach material. Take your ass back to Gene’s page.

  16. Braves Dawg Says:

    We all cower in the glory that is your knowledge of college football mcdick1.

  17. mcpeter1 Says:

    Act like you intimidate me you little boy….. The facts are in front of your face that college football isn’t what it’s suppose to be anymore… And you probably lack the basic common sense to realize that but its pretty typical of a racist pu**y to act like he knows everything…

  18. mcpeter1 Says:

    You people act just like the Ole Miss fans.. A bunch of spoiled snobs that aren’t thankful for anything..

  19. markillas44 Says:

    mcpeter1 – if you think croom did a decent job during his tenure then you don’t know s#*t about football. everyone on this page knows how hard it is to recruit in the sec, stating the obvious doesn’t make you sound intelligent – it makes you an idiot with no capacity for cognitive thought. maybe it is you who needs to take your own advice and think before you post something stupid…twice.

  20. farley662 Says:

    You came here insulting everyone. Hello pot, meet kettle.

  21. Braves Dawg Says:

    we are thankful. thankful for your bountiful football knowledge! honest!

  22. farley662 Says:

    I’m not racist, I have 10 black friends!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. diamondawg23 Says:

    Mcpeter nobody has signed on the dotted line yet. You take an 18 yr boy coming out of high school he can’t tell you what he’s going to do in the nex 10 minutes. If you hire the right one they will come. Nutt was playing with Ogeran recruits.. Saban playig with a lot of Shula recruits…Le Miles played with his recruits this year not typical LSU year was it. Even an idiot can
    say if a quaterback can’t see over our linemans a$$, I don’t want him. Look at the quaterback from La tech that beat us this year my goodness u mean we couldn’t get him to come to STATE come on…

  24. Braves Dawg Says:

    oh oh, i have 11, and stayed at a holiday inn last night! (with jason garrett)

  25. farley662 Says:

    I really have 12 if you count the guy who cuts my grass and the guy who changes my oil.

  26. mcpeter1 Says:

    You people don’t live in reality… It don’t take much intelligence at all to talk about college football. The fact is that you all dog Croom for being fired and telling the truth.. I do think that he did a good job taking all the damn thugs and criminals out of our program. It don’t take much “cognitive thought” you fuc*** genius, it’s college football not rock science…. Why don’t ya’ll just circle jerk each other the rest of the night…

  27. Braves Dawg Says:

    draws doesn’t count.

  28. farley662 Says:

    “It don’t take much “cognitive thought” you fuc*** genius, it’s college football not rock science….”

    Didn’t you just tell us we were not smart enough to understand? Damn I’m confused. Are you made because I didn’t tip you when you cut my grass this week?

  29. farley662 Says:

    Whoops. See I am too stupid. Mad, not made!!!!!!!!!

  30. farley662 Says:

    “Rock science”

    I wanted to be a geologist. Just didn’t have the stones for it.

  31. mcpeter1 Says:

    I actually white so maybe your just blind and don’t know the color of the man cutting your grass…

  32. darkcooger Says:

    Hey guys, I’ve got an idea! Chill the hell out.

    The bottom line is that Croom is gone, we don’t currently have a coach, and we don’t know what went down behind closed doors. No sense hating each other about it. Seriously.

  33. gmvbham7 Says:

    Leaving despite success? Listen, for Croom to say he got a pass his first 3 years is ludicrous at best. Did he give the players a pass? This guy is an insult. I hope he enjoys his three million sitting on his couch. Oh, I’m sorry, he will be coaching and winning super bowls and national championships doing it the “right way”. What a loser!

  34. markillas44 Says:

    the truth is croom can’t coach his way out of a paper sack, if it’s just college football what are you saying about croom? cleaning up jackie’s mess is admirable but football is wins & losses…period. i think the ‘rock science’ you’re referring to is what you’re smoking…genius.

  35. farley662 Says:

    (Throws shoe at cooger.)

  36. Braves Dawg Says:

    ain’t nobody hatin’ here coog. this is just your run of the mill forrest gump football discussion. don’t it make you feel funny?

  37. jbuzz74 Says:

    I sure miss the days when we had a moderator who would have stopped all these personal attacks and the unnecessary language.

  38. mcpeter1 Says:

    Well all you people have fun playing with yourselves in the mirror, I only signed up for this site because I only a bunch of people talking like MSU would every be a good football school… Get over it your bunch of babies MSU sucks… GO REBELS! HOTTIE TODDIE!!!!! You bunch of losers…

  39. farley662 Says:

    mcpeter1 Says:
    December 8, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    I actually white so maybe your just blind and don’t know the color of the man cutting your grass…

    Did you just admit to cutting my grass?

  40. darkcooger Says:

    Farley, shove the other shoe down mcpeter’s throat. 🙂

  41. farley662 Says:

    “HOTTIE TODDIE!!!!! ”

    It’s Hotty Toddy dumbass.

  42. diamondawg23 Says:

    Enjoy it Peter Texas Tech is waiting on the Rebels…Merry Christmas

  43. jbuzz74 Says:

    Hey Farley, hows the baby

  44. farley662 Says:

    He is doing great. Improving everyday. Thanks for asking.

  45. markillas44 Says:

    do speak like you type? sounds like typical oxford garbage…go figure, resorting to insults and mindless rambling, mcpeter1 went full retard.

  46. Braves Dawg Says:

    and mcdick1 is apparently houton nutt as he is so adept at the nursery rhyme cheer.

  47. maroondog Says:

    mc, what did you honestly think would happen when you came over hear insulting us? Did you think we would just drop to our knees and worship your great college football knowledge? If you had a difference of opinion you wanted to share, you could have just said, “in my opinion,” Instead you said “You guys are all wrong” Your the one that sounds like an OM fan – can dish it out, but can’t take it. If we acted like OM fans we would be screaming for Brad to put you in the penalty box. Instead, I’ll just tell you your a jackass.

  48. farley662 Says:

    Don’t call him a douche maroon.

  49. jbuzz74 Says:

    how old and much does he weigh now

  50. maroondog Says:

    As long as Flareb isn’t around, I can probably get by with it.

  51. farley662 Says:

    He is six months and almost 13lbs.

  52. jbuzz74 Says:

    awesome, my son is 9 months and 20 pounds now

  53. jbuzz74 Says:

    maybe my son can block for your son at MSU in about 18 years

  54. farley662 Says:

    Unfortunately, football is a no go. Can’t risk him getting hit in the chest. Same goes for baseball. Men’s gymnastics here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  55. diamondawg23 Says:

    2 future bulldogs I assume

  56. jbuzz74 Says:

    hey listen here farley, if my son is blocking for your son, no one would touch him!!!

  57. jbuzz74 Says:

    or they could rule the Professional Bowling tour

  58. farley662 Says:

    I was thinking maybe golf or the next Michael Phelps. Sans speedo.

  59. jbuzz74 Says:

    How about skating partners i.e. BLADES OF GLORY LOL

  60. diamondawg23 Says:

    I wonderful if they would let you compete in cut off blue jeans

  61. farley662 Says:

    I was thinking synchronized swimming.

  62. jbuzz74 Says:

    what is it with you and the speedos?

  63. darkcooger Says:

    Hey, you never know, he may lead MSU to its first national championship with that synchronized swimming.

  64. jbuzz74 Says:

    is there a fetish you want to let us all know about LOL

  65. farley662 Says:

    We do have a hockey team. No speedos and there is fighting we could all join in on.

  66. bigdraws Says:

    Braves, just because I like hot wings, chiggin liver, and chittlins don’t mean I’m black. I did stay at the Scottish Inn last night though.

  67. nova3930 Says:

    Regardless of what anybody thinks about Sly Croom as a coach or a person, I honestly feel his story is plausible for one simple reason.

    I don’t care how “honorable” the institution is, a contract is a contract so you don’t shell out $3M in severance pay unless you just sent somebody packing.

    Just like Tubby “resigned” at Auburn but still got $6M. Yeah right. No school admin is “honorable” enough to part with $6M it doesn’t have to.

  68. darkcooger Says:

    nova3930: Then three SEC head football coaches resigned this year and all three got their buyout pay. Two of those three seem like they’ll be staying with the schools that they resigned from. It’s all very weird, if you ask me. They technically resigned, but the schools wanted them gone in at least two of the cases (and our own case is unclear, though it seems likely Croom was asked to leave).

  69. carwwest Says:

    i am so glad he is gone…

  70. RoastBeef1 Says:

    Well that looked interesting…

  71. Brad Locke Says:

    Skydawg: I checked up some on Borges (read: looked at his Wikipedia page), who is not currently coaching to my knowledge. His wife, apparently, is employed at Auburn in some capacity, which I forget.

  72. Brad Locke Says:

    Good to have you back, Farley.

  73. Braves Dawg Says:

    Way back. He has no personal hygiene.

  74. nova3930 Says:

    darkcooger: I gotta say, all 3 may have said the words “I resign” but when those payouts are being made, it means admin sent them packing but called it a resignation to save face for everyone. A “Resign or else” situation.

    And especially going back to honorable. In my 5.5 years @ MSU as a student and then again since then, I’ve had a few dealings with different levels of the admin. The way they’ve dealt with me as a student and then as an alumni, is anything but honorable.

    I love my alma mater, but hate the way its run most of the time…

  75. midnightdawg Says:

    Seems someone called me out, “a d r i a nn”

    if not, sorry.

    “If he dies, he dies” … Ivan Drago

  76. farley662 Says:

    (throws other show at Locke)

  77. Braves Dawg Says:

    Oh, I was calling out Felker for our preview of Rocky II.

    Felker for HC in 2009!

  78. farley662 Says:

    Shoe!!!!!!! Curses!!!!!!!!

  79. Braves Dawg Says:

    Put “football for dummies” down Farley and concentrate for the love of Xenu!

  80. farley662 Says:

    It’s hard to blog and watch Desperate Housewives at the same time dang it!

  81. midnightdawg Says:

    I’m with you Braves, just dug thru closet and found ’89 media guide. I’m fired up and ready to spend some $$$$. Hmm, maybe Drago said it best…

  82. midnightdawg Says:

    err, ’86?

  83. Braves Dawg Says:

    My sources tell me, Chuck Berry, that Croom has been picked to be the heir apparent to Pete Carroll at USC. He also says that the real reason he resigned was because Byrne was holding him back and stifling his offensive coaching creativity.

  84. darkcooger Says:

    My experience with the administration was excellent. Maybe it was unique to the college of engineering, and maybe I was a special because I had prior relationships with many of them (my aunt worked for the dean, one of my first professors wound up being promoted to associate dean, and my department head’s wife was my 6th grade teacher). Still…

    When I had a particularly bad experience with a teacher, I emailed the department head. I was shocked when he not only emailed me back, but asked me if I could come by his office to talk about it. We talked about it and he actually listened to me. In the end, he acknowledged that there was a problem, explained some background to me, and gave me his word that he would make sure the students didn’t suffer due to a bad teacher experience.

    And it all worked out well in the end. So I guess my experience is just different from yours. Everyone was always pleasant, polite, and helpful in my experience.

  85. Braves Dawg Says:

    The SEC is not ready for The Rock.

  86. dawgintheswamp Says:

    BRING IT TO THE ROCK!!!!!!!!!!

  87. dawgintheswamp Says:

    darkcooger we’re happy for you, we really are

  88. Braves Dawg Says:

    Do ya smmmeeeeelllllll what the Felker’s cooooookin’???!!!!!!

  89. maroondog Says:

    I do have one question about the comments Croom made. The AD told him that the first three years didn’t matter. Am I the only one that is pissed about that. Even if you don’t think you’ll win, why would you tell the coach that? What kind of motivation is that? Here’s 1 million dollars, and no pressure for three years.

  90. nova3930 Says:

    darkcooger: CoE doesn’t matter, thats what I was too :p

    I had no problems from the Dept. Head and down. In my dealings though, it seemed like the further up the totem pole you climbed, the more rotten the wood was…

    Like I said, I love my alma mater, but hate the way its run…

  91. darkcooger Says:

    Yeeeeaaahhh… that dragged on way too far. The point was just that I’d had good experiences with administration, in response to nova3930. I’ll try to keep it to a length that does not induce an immediate “nobody cares” response in the future. 😛

  92. Braves Dawg Says:

    *golf clap*

  93. bigdraws Says:

    cooger, any longer than that and I’ll be forced to respond with the online version of the illiad by homer book 1-5.

  94. Braves Dawg Says:

    The warning has been issued.

  95. nova3930 Says:

    lol

  96. midnightdawg Says:

    my brother in NM says Rocky Long just left in a funny lookin plane. Some middle aged looking MLB went with him. I’m just sayin….

  97. darkcooger Says:

    I’d prefer Virgil’s Aeneid. Please don’t force Homer on me.

  98. Braves Dawg Says:

    Funny lookin’ plane? You mean like, the Bat Wing?

  99. midnightdawg Says:

    yeah, just like that

  100. Braves Dawg Says:

    LMAO!

  101. midnightdawg Says:

    nite all. will sleep if can stop laughing. go get em’ GB!

  102. tennesseemarine01 Says:

    With that 100 mil that Leo Seal gave we should beable to get who WE want.

  103. bigdraws Says:

    “Virgil’s Aeneid”

    bwaaaaaaaaaaahahahaaa!!!

  104. msualum01 Says:

    I’m glad we had Croom when we did. He did some good things for our program. That being said, Croom took the program as far as he was going to take it. It was time for a change.

  105. msualum01 Says:

    I’m glad we had Croom when we did. He did some good things for our program. That being said, Croom took the program as far as he was going to take it. It was time for a change.

  106. dadawg Says:

    After watching the CBS clip, I think CC is no longer going to be in college coaching. This sounded like a parting shot and I don’t think that other schools will be interested. He is out, maybe the NFL has a place for him. Jus saying…..

  107. bamamanreturns Says:

    I think its pretty clear now that there is ZERO interest in the HC job at State outside of the Bulldog homers, which unfortunately most can barely remember to ask if you want a hot apple pie with that, much less run an SEC football program, but Rocky Felker should be able to pull of 3 wins a year

  108. rwriffe Says:

    Where you been gatorbait. What happened this weekend? Clearly outmatched. Oh, and the UTE’s will only extend that bashing. You are only worried that State might get a coach who will build up a 2nd program from the state of Mississippi that will continue to create major headaches for Satan and the Bama faithful. Now, go back to your single wide and enjoy that magpie.

  109. msudawginbama Says:

    bananaman reminds me once again why i went out of state for college…

    what does croom think he will accomplish with these interviews? get the HC job @ grambling? any face time he garners gets tarnished when they flash up his record, and his team’s offensive stats. his has to be one of the only teams to ever exist with a FG % below 50% and a defense with more TD’s than the offense… (thinking of the 5 year total, here)

  110. bantyrooster1 Says:

    Croom couldn’t get the job at Grambling. They have a REAL coach in Williams. Croom wasn’t worthy of a head coaching position in the SEC and I think his comments this week will prove it. Sour Grapes. He had five years to make changes that he swears now were in the works for next year. Bullspit.

  111. omahadog Says:

    Okay, I take back what I’ve thought and said about Croom being of the highest character. The more he says, the less I believe in his “character”. NOW, he says that he was about to make a change? What he means is that during the conversation with Byrne, he brought up Borges’ name. Only, when he realized that Byrne was set to pull the trigger. By then, it was too late, and now seeing Croom for Croom, he probably tried to put contingincies in if he changed coordinators. Just go away Croom! Shut up and go away! I was a huge supporter of yours, but the more you say, the smaller you get.

  112. Braves Dawg Says:

    bummer, what are you doing here? i’ve been waiting on you to pump my gas. now get off the cpu and check my oil.

  113. bigdraws Says:

    “now get off the cpu and check my oil.”

    That sort of thing may be exceptable in a bathroom stall at Rumors but certainly not here, braves.

  114. Braves Dawg Says:

    i’m sorry. i didn’t know bummer and bandit were of the same persuasion.

  115. bigdraws Says:

    I’m just assuming that Braves. We’ll wait for bandit to return and ask him. They say they can pick each other out in a crowd.

  116. mathistondawg Says:

    kevin wilson just won the broyles award for the top assistant in the country – was a finalist at northwestern for the same award.

    If croom was forced out while offering to change the offensive coordinator position, then I would like to know what was said behind those doors. I thought that would give him another year or two. It will be a black eye for us if byrne didn’t give him a chance to rectify the situation,

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